Re: Meaning of "fine-tuning"

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Sat Oct 21 2000 - 10:53:13 EDT

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    "Howard J. Van Till" wrote:

    > Doug Hayworth wrote:
    >
    > > In my admittedly cursory reading on the Anthropic Principle (AP), I have
    > > been uncomfortable with the use of the term "fine-tuning". This term seems
    > > to connote that God (on this list, we are all agreed that if there is
    > > anything that can be called fine tuning, it is God who does it) somehow
    > > adjusts something that was formerly only crudely "tuned". Conceptions of
    > > the AP that require this meaning do not appeal to me, since they imply that
    > > there is some background or foundational order in the Creation that is less
    > > than perfect or complete. As a Christian, I would prefer the term
    > > "finely-established" or "finely-created" to imply that God established in
    > > his initial creation a confluence of orderliness brought about his purposes
    > > in genesis of the cosmos, our solar system, earth, and its creatures. I
    > > don't think God had to adjust things (i.e., fine-tune) later.
    > >
    > > In practice, how do philosophers and apologists of the AP use the term
    > > "fine-tuning"? What do you folks think?
    > >
    > > I seem to remember that Howard Van Till addressed aspects of the AP at the
    > > Waco conference. If so, perhaps he has some wisdom here.
    >
    > I agree with Doug's sentiments here. As I see it, the term "fine tuning"
    > does not entail the idea of adjusting something what was already in
    > existence, but simply refers to the condition of having a set of parameter
    > values that is "just right" to bring the universe from its initial state to
    > its present state along a pathway of continuous development.
    >
    > Interesting to me is the fact that fine tuning is necessary only in the
    > context of presuming that the universe (the Creation) satisfies the Robust
    > Formational Economy Principle and has an evolutionary formational history.
    > Episodic creationism, on the other hand, should see evidence for fine tuning
    > and the Anthropic Principle as surprising, since occasional acts of divine
    > adjustment could presumably make up for any lack of original tuning.
    >

            Or to put it another way, the anthropic coincidences without evolution
    are at best just numerology, like the pattern hidden in the digits of pi in
    Sagan's _Contact_. This is why High Ross's approach, which places great emphasis
    on these coincidences as evidence of design, but denies human evolution, doesn't
    make much sense.

    Shalom,

    George



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