George,
I don't know whether or not this is one of the solutions proposed by F. F.
Bruce, but it has been pointed out that the accounts in Acts 9 and Acts 22
differ in the case of the word for voice--accusative vs. genitive.
Gordon Brown
Department of Mathematics
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO 80309-0395
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, george murphy wrote:
>
>
> "George Andrews Jr." wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave;
> >
> > David F Siemens wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:57:30 -0400 "George Andrews Jr."
> > > <gandrews@as.wm.edu> writes:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The fact that those accompanying Paul did not also hear Christ's
> > > > voice is my
> > > > point. It was all in Paul's mind.
> > > >
> > > Sorry, George, but you need to read your Bible more carefully. Acts 9:7
> > > says those with Saul heard a voice. So, if it was all in Saul's head, it
> > > was also in the heads of those accompanying him.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > Thanks for the correction. I thought they just heard sound. But I agree
> > with your conclusion that is was also in the heads of the others. Again,
> > where else would it be. However, unless I am mistaken again, I am afraid
> > you may be missing my point concerning a theistic interpretation of the
> > experiments. When I say it was in Paul's and his companion's minds, I am
> > not arguing that the source wasn't God. I am saying that religious
> > experiences must be in the mind so experimental stimulation shouldn't worry
> > us.
> >
>
> The situation is not as simple as Dave suggested. Acts 9:7 does say
> that the men with him heard the voice, but Acts 22:9 says that they "saw the
> light but did not hear the voice of the one who was speaking to me," while
> 26:13-18 says nothing about the experience of those with Paul except that they
> fell to the ground.
> Of course solutions have been proposed, such as the two discussed by
> F.F. Bruce, _The Acts of the Apostles_, (Eerdmans, 1952) p.199. According to
> neither of these did they distinguish the _words_ apoken to Paul. Or it might
> be simply 9:7 describes correctly what happened & that 22:9 reports correctly
> what Paul said had happened, but that he was wrong - though this seems a
> stretch.
> Shalom,
> George
>
>
>
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