From: glenn morton
GRM: You can't ignore the fact that the salt found sandwiched in the
sedimentary rocks MUST have come from the flood waters if your theory is
true.
AR: I admit that salt in the sedimentary rocks is problematic for
Creationary catastrophists at this point. However, that is no reason to
jump ship yet. I expect that explantions will be forth coming. ( I realize
that you are extremly skeptical)
GRM: It wasn't totally homogenous, but salt, as you might have observed, is
very
soluble in water. IF the salt found in the sedimentary column every touched
the flood waters, it would dissolve. And you are being inconsistent here.
Those who believe in the global flood talk about how destructive and
erosive the initial stages were, how they eroded the continents to nubbins
yet here you don't want the flood to have eroded and added the salt to the
water's salinity. You can't have it both ways Allen.
AR: The erosion of continents and deposition would only occurr on the
continents, because the tsunami pass over the deep ocean with out much
effect. It is only when the waves "feel" bottom that they build up into
monsters that crash ashore stripping the shallow sea and coastal low lands.
As the wave begins it's run-up on the land it continually looses energy.
Finally it slows to a stop, then it slowly begins to retreat. Deposition
will occurr the whole time it looses energy and during run off, only when
the wave reaches a high enough speed will it begin to strip of part of its
former deposition. The net result is that large deposition is made on the
land. If a wave is big enough so that is completely passes over the land
and enters the ocean again it will quickly loose its energy as the bottom
dropps away. Deposition will occure primarily close to the shoreline or the
edge of the continent. Thus, there will lots of erosion and deposition on
the continents, but not much deposition (mostly fines) in the deep oceans.
To get salt deposition on the continent, one need special circumstances.
Just what those are at this point, I don't know. But, I feel certain an
explanation will be found.
>AR: I have been surfing during rain storms off Ala Moana where the
surface of
the
>ocean disappears under 6 to 8 inches of continual splash. After 10 to 20
>minutes the surface is covered with a layer of fresh water you can drink
by >just putting your face in the water. The fresh water layer stays in
place for >a another 30 to 40 minutes. There were rains for 150 days
during the the >Flood which could leave a layer of fresh water continually
on the surface of >the flood waters.
GRM: In order for this to occur the waters must remain tranquil. If the
waters
were tranquil, they couldn't have eroded the vast sedimentary deposits of
the world. Are you a believer in a tranquil flood?
AR: The ocean was covered by at least an inch of fresh water. In the
breaking surf zone the water was mixed fairly quickly because the layer was
so thin. If we postulate that the rains put 1 inch of water on the oceans
every 20 minutes that would mean up to 6 feet of fresh water every 24 hours
and a total of 900 feet of fresh water after 150 days. This much deeper and
continually fed layer of fresh water would be harder to mix into ocean and
the mixing that takes place would still leave the water close to the surface
with a very low salt content. The surface wate would not be affected much
by the impact-tsunami because they pass over deep water with little effect.
In the deep ocean, wind waves would be the primary mixing factor. In fact,
only those breakers which are within a few feet in hight related to the
depth of the fresh water would have a mixing effect. The small waves would
not reach deep enough, and the large waves would simply raise and lower the
whole close surface water. So, the fresh water layer could be kept largely
intact in the deep ocean reagions of the planet during the Flood.
GRM: Henry Morris wouldn't like you if you are.
AR: I was a creationary catastrophist long before I ever heard of Henry.
:)
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