Re: intelligent design

From: RDehaan237@aol.com
Date: Sun Jul 02 2000 - 07:24:07 EDT

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    In a message dated 7/1/2000 9:37:25 AM, Dawsonzhu@aol.com writes:

    << The point is that although the assertions of individual scientists
    may claim that "evolution is a purposeless process" & co.(TM,R,C),
    few of them really have the basis to make that claim. They are
    scholars of a narrow scientific discipline, but that does not automatically
    grant them scholarship of other disciplines they have earned no credentials
    in. >>

    Wayne,

    I agree with you in part. But that does not stop them from making their
    proclamations; nor does it stop many people from believing them.

    This thread started with Wendee, who teaches college biology, claiming that
    she didn't see that scientists' current understanding of Darwinian evolution
    (ie. the

    synthetic theory or neo-Darwinian theory) "claims" that (1) it is undirected.

    I provided a bunch of quotations to the contrary. Whether the person making
    the quotations are qualified to do so or not, the fact is that many
    evolutionists have published statements that Darwinian evolution is
    directionless and purposeless.

    This claim, however, not just a philosphically-based claim. It is also a
    scientifically justifiable one. If natural selection is demonstrated
    empirically only to enhance immediate adaptation to the environment, then it
    is a necessary inference that it has no long range direction as to where this
    immediate adaptation will lead. This is a scientific inference, not just a
    philosophical or theological one.

    I think it is inescapable that the current scientific understanding of
    Darwinian evolution is that it is directionless, purposeless, and devoid of
    long range goals. This is an inference from empirical data on natural
    selection, supported by prior philosophical commitments, amplified into
    general principle.

    One good place to challenge this understanding is in the highschool and
    college biology classroom. Wendee is in an excellent position to point out
    where the directionless, purposeless concept originated, and that when
    scientists make such statements beyond what science can demonstrate, that
    have departed the discipline of science and entered the domain of philosophy
    and theology, where they are no more competent to speak than the average man
    on the street.

    Best wishes,

    Bob



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