The issues raised by ID can be most profitable to those who insist that all
is matter/energy. To the theist, ID is a possible venue to integrate
science and religion. The way God interacts with the physical is a difficult
problem. Humans will never figure it out. What makes sense to someone may be
nonsense to another. I do not believe in deism and some of what I read can
easily qualify as such. History is not preprogrammed by God. I am remind of
the movie "Casablanca" where the ending was written as the movie was being
done. I am sure God is more like that than having a script exactly written
from beginning to end, there must be room for human free will.
Moorad
-----Original Message-----
From: glenn morton <mortongr@flash.net>
To: Moorad Alexanian <alexanian@uncwil.edu>; James Mahaffy
<mahaffy@mtcnet.net>; asa@calvin.edu <asa@calvin.edu>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Possible impact of ID
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Moorad Alexanian" <alexanian@uncwil.edu>
>To: "glenn morton" <mortongr@flash.net>; "James Mahaffy"
><mahaffy@mtcnet.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Possible impact of ID
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>
>> The best way to understand something is to know what it is and what it is
>> not. ID states that the whole thing did not come without the aid of a
BIG
>> BRAIN! It is the role of science to incorporate that knowledge into their
>> tool box. At least that would avoid a lot of nonsense being said about
how
>> the universe and man came into being. That is already an important
>> contribution, even if it were to be the sole contribution
>
>So? Most Christians in science knew this without the aid of the ID movement
>and knew it before the ID movement was ever formed. I simply don't see
that
>they have made a contribution here. And, their evidence for design is not
>the only place God can act as a designer. What they are doing is saying
that
>if evolution occurred, God couldn't have designed the biological entities.
>That simply isn't true. God could have designed the molecular system such
>that it would give rise to the biological entities. I have suggested that
>and before me, Howard Van Till has suggested it. God designing a system
>which would evolve from nothing would also be design but the ID folk would
>reject that as design. So, what they are doing is limiting God to designing
>biological entities in ways that they approve. I don't think God needs or
>wants
>their approval.
>
>
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