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-----Original Message-----
From: George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com>
To: RDehaan237@aol.com <RDehaan237@aol.com>
Cc: TDavis@messiah.edu <TDavis@messiah.edu>; Asa@calvin.edu <Asa@calvin.edu>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Mooning Johnson
>RDehaan237@aol.com wrote:
> ..................................
>
>> Don't we all hold that there are two books that reveal God--the Book of
>> Nature and the Word of God? Is not reading the Book of Nature (i.e.,
doing
>> scientific work) in and of itself, and finding in it a revelation of God,
a
>> legitimate enterprise without necessarily reading the second book. Must
>> every scientific endeavorer glorify the wooden cross? My hunch is that
>> George Murphy's criticism of ID is that is in danger of glorifying the
starry
>> crosses rather than the wooden cross, and thus become idolatrous. While
this
>> is a danger, I do not see it as an actuality, do you? Doing no more than
>> advocating Intelligent Design in nature is enough to be perceived as a
hidden
>> advocacy of the Christian view of nature.
> My own view of the relationship of the "two books" (if we're going to use
that
>metaphor) is expressed pretty well by some comments of Nancey Murphy
(referring to an
>essay of Owen Gingerich):
>
> "Gingerich uses the metaphor of the two books, the Book of Scripture and
the
>Book of Nature, both pointing to God. However, it seems clear to me, based
on the
>considerations I have raised here, that these books ought not to be read
independently
>of one another. In fact, the Book of Nature ought to be read as a sequel
to the Bible.
>As with the sequel to a novel, it is important to read the first volume to
find out
>about the characters. Or to drop the metaphor, we get our hypothesis of
design from
>revelation. Discoveries like the fine tuning come along later, and their
strength as
>evidence lies in confirming an already-existing hypothesis that already has
other
>confirmation from other realms of experience. Without revelation, we would
be at a loss
>to know what we mean by designer in such arguments."
> (In _Science and Theology_, edited by Murray Rae _at al_, Eerdmans, 1994).
>
> I.e., in order for what we learn from nature to tell us anything about
God, we
>have to place it in the context of revelation (or "special revelation" if
you wish).
>There is no legitimate natural theology which is independent of theology
based upon
>revelation.
> This does NOT mean that scientific investigation _of the world_ must begin
with
>Christian presuppositions, intend to glorify the crucified, &c. Atheists
can understand
>the world qua world as well as Christians.
> Shalom,
> George
>
>George L. Murphy
>gmurphy@raex.com
>http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
>