At 02:25 AM 8/2/99 -0500, andrew wrote:
>Thanks George and Adam for the replies. Good enough for now though if
>anyone finds anything well written on the subject pass it on. I never
>really have thought at all about the ascension so I am starting from a
>clean slate. If Jesus was ressurected physically is He somewhere *out there
>* in bodily form? seems a bit odd of a question but I had to ask.
>Andrew
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>At 09:23 PM 7/26/99 -0400, George Murphy wrote:
>>andrew wrote:
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>>> This is all well and helpful but I still am left with this. If the new
>>> testament is reporting history than did the Lord really seem to lift up in
>>> the clouds when he "left" earth? Some say that calls the account into
>>> question which is to arrogant a claim for my taste but any thoughts? Do
you
>>> take the account at face value?
>>> Andrew
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>> The NT speaks of historical events but is not limited to chronicle-like
>>recording of them. It speaks about the meaning of those events and,
>pre-eminently,
>>about the meaning of Jesus. A good argument can be made for the basic
>historical
>>character of the Easter events - i.e., the appearances of Christ and the
>empty tomb -
>>without trying to "harmonize" in chronological sequence & geographical
>placement.
>>The resurrection appearances came to an end at some point - to put it
>crudely, we don't
>>see Jesus on earth now. If the risen Christ told them on one occasion
>that that
>>was the last time they would see him, and if they believed that he was
>seated at the
>>right hand of God, whatever his departure was like would - given the
>cosmology of the
>>time - have been understood and described by them in terms of an
>"ascension". & of
>>course any motion away from the earth will be seen to begin with as a
>motion "upward".
>> C.S. Lewis discission in Chapter 16 of _Miracles_ my be helpful, though I
>would
>>not subscribe to all that he says here.
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>>George L. Murphy
>>gmurphy@raex.com
>>http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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