Moorad
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From: PHSEELY@aol.com <PHSEELY@aol.com>
To: bivalve@mailserv0.isis.unc.edu <bivalve@mailserv0.isis.unc.edu>
Cc: asa@calvin.edu <asa@calvin.edu>
Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Phil's remarks on Focus on the Family
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><< >Phil: It sure does, and it ought to fascinate everybody. You know, it's
>the
> >most interesting topic in the world. Are we the products of a mindless,
> >material process like the educators are telling us today? Or, are we here
> >because a purposeful creator, who cares about us and what we do, brought
us
> >into existence for a purpose? That's the issue.
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>David Campbell responded:
><< The initial question is not worded well. Disregarding the issue of
> evolution and simply focusing on growth, our bodies are unquestionably the
> product of a lot of mindless material processes such as the assembly of
> proteins by ribosomes, cell growth and division, DNA transcription, etc.
> The real question is whether we are the products of mindless, material
> processes ALONE or whether God acts BOTH through and above such
processes.>>
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>Regarding the failure of Dobson and Johnson to surmount either-or thinking,
>the theologian B. B. Warfield made a comment in 1908 about a book called
>Darwinism Today that seems to apply to both of them,
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>"Some lack of genuine philosophical acumen must be suspected when it is not
>fully understood that teleology is in no way inconsistent with-is rather
>necessarily involved in-a complete system of natural causation. Every
>teleological system implies a complete 'causo-mechanical' explanation as
its
>instrument."
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>Paul
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