Re: sliding into liberalism

Rob Wahl (rwahl@kermode.net)
Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:46:18 -0700

Juli
I liked what you wrote. Just one point. Liberals don't get involved
with these kinds of discussions because they just concede the Bible writers
got it wrong because they didn't know better. The way I understand it, this
debate arises when people try to understand and reconcile the two books of
revelation in the spirit of Psalms 19

The heavens declare the Glory of God... [AND]
The law of the Lord is perfect.

(I didn't catch the previous discussion about liberalism)

At 05:11 AM 9/2/96 -0400, you wrote:
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>in my day, girls weren't encouraged to study math. So your exhortation to
>go back to geometry 101 is useless... never had it. so what am I doing on
>a scientific bbs, you ask? trying to learn to see things a little
>differently, and beginning to realize why highly educated people stumble
>on the Bible, why so many slide into "liberal interpretation" of
>Scripture, why so many are discouraged with trying to understand God. I
>wonder if the Word would be distorted if I were to suggest that it is hard
>for a rich man - rich in knowledge as well as material things - to enter
>the kingdom...
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>Juli
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>On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Murphy wrote:
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>> William T. Yates wrote:
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>> > Juli Kuhl wrote:
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>> > > you wrote that "a round basin 30 cubits around and 10 across...
>> > > should be 31.41592635389793238... cubits"
>> > >
>> > > maybe there's another way of looking at this: 30 cubits around
>> > > could be the *perimeter* and 10 across could be the distance
>> > > of the two widest points of the circle, no? How does that
>> > > work out mathematically (in round numbers, please. I'm not a
>> > > mathematician.) Just wondering.
>> > >
>> > > I agree with the rest of your posting re: liberal/literal euphemizing.
>> > >
>> > > Juli Kuhl
>> >
>> > Back to Geometry 101, Juli! The "perimeter" of a circle is the same as
>> > it's circumference. The distance of the two widest points on the circle
>> > would be the diameter. And the relationship of the circumference to the
>> > diameter of a circle is defined as pi (3.141592653589793238.....). All
>> > the decimal places mean that pi is what is called an 'irrational'
>> > number. That's rational from ratio, not reason. It can't be represented
>> > by a fraction. Therefore, if the diameter is 10 cubits, then the
>> > circumference is 31.4159..etc.. If the circumference is 30 cubits, the
>> > diameter must be 9.5493... cubits. No way around it. :)
>> > --
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>> > --
>> > --Bill Yates
>> > --wtyates@vcnet.com
>> > --wtyates@aol.com
>> > --http://www.vcnet.com/wtyates/wtyates.html
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>> PI is 3 to one significant figure.
>> There are numbers in the Bible which one has to ask questions
>> about, perhaps because they are used symbolically or to give a
>> deliberately grandiose effect - e.g., some of the sizes of armies or
>> monetary amounts in Chronicles. But this approximate value of pi is
>> simply that - an approximation.
>> (EN PASSANT, Roman engineers used 3 - 1/8 for pi. They knew
>> that 3 - 1/7 is closer, but eighths are easier to work with.)
>> George Murphy
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